Re: Muslims offended by atheists and Hindus calling Jesus the Devil

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Posted by chris sivewright on December 26, 1997 at 06:05:51:

In Reply to: Re: Muslims offended by atheists and Hindus calling Jesus the Devil posted by Jochen Katz on December 18, 1997 at 01:11:54:

On the subject of Jesus = Lucifer I offer the following (and also note that there has been no follow up or complaint about the site that Mohammed linked to re Jesus = Lucifer!

I also point out however, that Lucifer is NOT Satan so what is the fuss about?

The key is the morning star verses :

I have been sent this :

"Job 38:7 When the MORNING STARS sang together, and all
the sons
of God shouted for joy?

This verse indicates that there were MANY morning
stars, who were
all created by God. Lucifer, is a FALLEN morning star.
(now known
as Satan) This verse was telling Job about things that
occured
BEFORE creation. (as we know it, pre-Adam)

Jesus is not A morning star, He is THE morning star.
ALL things
were created by Him, and for Him. Read these verses:

BOOK OF COLOSSIANS

CHAPTER 1
13 Who hath delivered us from
the power of darkness, and hath
translated us into the kingdom of his
dear Son:
14 In whom we have redemption
through his blood, even the
forgiveness of sins:
15 Who is the image of the
invisible God, the firstborn of every
creature:
16 For by him were all things
created, that are in heaven, and that
are in earth, visible and invisible,
whether they be thrones, or
dominions, or principalities, or
powers: all things were created by
him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things,
and by him all things consist.

Jesus is clearly the Creator, as these verses so
plainly state.
Jesus become flesh, but He pre-existed as GOD. (see
John chapter 1)
He had to be born to become a man, so that we could one
day become
like Him. (a COMPLETE man in-Christ, not a weak body of
flesh & blood)

Jesus is not just a king, He is the King of Kings!
There are many kings,
but there is only ONE Kings of kings. Lucifer was
created by Jesus, as
a morning star. But he was never THE MORNING STAR. As
John says, Jesus
was with God, and He was God. This is said of NO OTHER
morning star,
angel, or man."

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Comments:
: On the subject of Jesus = Lucifer I offer the following (and also note that there has been no follow up or complaint about the site that Mohammed linked to re Jesus = Lucifer!

: I also point out however, that Lucifer is NOT Satan so what is the fuss about?

: The key is the morning star verses :

: I have been sent this :

:
: "Job 38:7 When the MORNING STARS sang together, and all
: the sons
: of God shouted for joy?

: This verse indicates that there were MANY morning
: stars, who were
: all created by God. Lucifer, is a FALLEN morning star.
: (now known
: as Satan) This verse was telling Job about things that
: occured
: BEFORE creation. (as we know it, pre-Adam)

: Jesus is not A morning star, He is THE morning star.
: ALL things
: were created by Him, and for Him. Read these verses:

: BOOK OF COLOSSIANS

: CHAPTER 1
: 13 Who hath delivered us from
: the power of darkness, and hath
: translated us into the kingdom of his
: dear Son:
: 14 In whom we have redemption
: through his blood, even the
: forgiveness of sins:
: 15 Who is the image of the
: invisible God, the firstborn of every
: creature:
: 16 For by him were all things
: created, that are in heaven, and that
: are in earth, visible and invisible,
: whether they be thrones, or
: dominions, or principalities, or
: powers: all things were created by
: him, and for him:
: 17 And he is before all things,
: and by him all things consist.

: Jesus is clearly the Creator, as these verses so
: plainly state.
: Jesus become flesh, but He pre-existed as GOD. (see
: John chapter 1)
: He had to be born to become a man, so that we could one
: day become
: like Him. (a COMPLETE man in-Christ, not a weak body of
: flesh & blood)

: Jesus is not just a king, He is the King of Kings!
: There are many kings,
: but there is only ONE Kings of kings. Lucifer was
: created by Jesus, as
: a morning star. But he was never THE MORNING STAR. As
: John says, Jesus
: was with God, and He was God. This is said of NO OTHER
: morning star,
: angel, or man."

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